Has anyone attended the Graduate Event this year?
I went this past week.
Any comments?
I went this past week.
Any comments?
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Re: Pigs Fly Event.
Sat, October 28, 2006 - 10:14 PMG'day Tex,
Just finished SELP on Thursday. Wheeee. Have a ticket to the "PFE" in San Diego in Nov... Will letcha no... And what about yerself??? -
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Re: Pigs Fly Event.
Sat, December 2, 2006 - 12:07 PMThe event was another stroll down memory lane for me, except the memories were better! :-D
I thought the event was somewhat disjointed and lacked focus.
The "without integrity, nothing works" part seemed lame.
I liked the part about the famous person who as a young man was contemplating suicide.
What prevented him was the realization that there were two of him, and one was going to kill both of them!
That was very good, and so true.
Here's a snip from a review of the book "The Power of Now."
How's your knee feeling?
www.intuitive-connections.net/200....htm
At the age of twenty-nine, Eckhart Tolle had spent years existing in a world of deep depression, burdened by anxious and suicidal thoughts. During a particularly dark night and in the early morning hours, filled with despair, Tolle experienced a profound awakening. The question he asked himself over and over again ? ?Am I one or two?? ?If I cannot live with myself, there must be two of me: the ?I? and the ?self? that ?I? cannot live with.? ?Maybe,? he thought, ?only one of them is real.?
In his book, The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment (New World Library), Tolle tells us that the true wealth of being can never be found outside of ourselves. It is in discovering our connectedness to all things that we find our true nature and the ability to feel ?oneness with Being.? This is enlightenment. And yet, he describes it as a paradox of ?something that is essentially you and yet is much greater than you.? In the absence of connectedness we experience fear and separation from our Source or true self.
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Re: Pigs Fly Event - Integrity
Tue, December 5, 2006 - 8:05 PMTex,
(unsolicited coaching) I'd like to request that you put aside your discomfort with "without integrity, nothing works". It's difficult for us to see ourselves as having no Integrity, but taking it on gives us lots of power. There's a really good Landmark CD set called "Living a created life" that really nails the distinction Integrity and shows us that living in Integrity creates space for miracles. It's hard to believe, but it works if you choose to believe.
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Re: Pigs Fly Event - Integrity
Wed, December 6, 2006 - 6:49 AMHi Joe,
I got that distinction 25 years ago when I took est and have been living that since then.
There was no need to create some false declaration, as in "without integrity, nothing works."
First of all, the definition of integrity est/Landmark style hasn't changed. It is still nebulous at best.
In my day it was used to "club" people over the head when guest seminars and seminars and other events didn't "work."
It would go like this.
We didn't produce the enrollments tonight because people have "out integrity."
In the GSLP there was a classroom dedicated to just this. People in my GSLP were not registering many people, hence not able to qualify to lead guest seminars. So the Enrollment Manager declared that it was an integrity issue, and told people to use two hours to "clean it up." People went scurrying away into the night to clean up the trunk of their car, call someone to apologize, balance their check book etc.
I stayed. When asked why I wasn't out doing anything I told them I was "complete." And it should be noted, I WAS enrolling and registering guest in guest room and by phone as well as personal friends. The GSLP co-ordinator told me I figured the game out early, that integrity is subjective and you have it if you say so. So while the guy with the brand new BMW was cleaning out the trunk of the car, I was "complete" with the shit box with the rusted fender and dented door. That car didn't prevent me from producing "results."
It was the presentation on the topic, "without integrity, nothing works," that I thought was lame.
The rest was a rehash of exactly what they've been saying for over 30 years.
I didn't think the presentation of the material was very good in this event. It was disjointed, focused on the negative, as in being without something, and seemed to funnel everything towards the conclusion that everyone still doesn't "get it" and that only LAndmark has the "fix."
It also was so highly scripted that it lacked any spontaneity.
I don't think the event suggested to think of oneself as having no integrity, as you mention below,
I find, just like I did back in my GSLP days, that thinking this way is disempowering.
I'm acutely aware of my own human nature, and I'm constantly on guard against allowing myself to backslide.
One other thing, it has nothing to do with belief.
They specifically admonished the group to not believe that "without integrity, nothing works."
It was just a context to live from, not believe.
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Re: Pigs Fly Event - Integrity
Fri, December 8, 2006 - 5:49 PMTex,
I got it.
It puts the conversation about Integrity another way and it helped me.
Good story about GSLP. I sometimes wonder how close of a correlation there really is between Integrity of the people in the room and results.
I still recommend the "Living a Created Life" CD. It's just a few bucks and I think you'll find it interesting.
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Re: Pigs Fly Event - Integrity
Sun, December 10, 2006 - 11:00 PMHi Joe,
I saw good results produced by people I found were lacking "integrity" and bad results produced by people that had the utmost integrity.
If one could quantify integrity, and don't know if results could be measured.
My personal experience is that being true to myself and honest with myself and others works for me. When I'm trying to be someone different than who I am things don't work so well.
As for the "Lving a Created Life" CD, is it different than the event I went to?
The content of the event and the presentation didn't resonate with me. There were a few good moments, but for the most part if focused on the assumption that the people in the room had lives that didn't work and it was mostly because they didn't live their lives with integrity. I thought it was a dreary message and a somewhat damning indictment on the effectiveness of the programs. If the assertion was true, Landmark's programs aren't working for those folks.
They were mentioning something new and improved that would help people "get it" so much more quickly.
Have they rolled this out yet?
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