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New Years Nothingness

thomasgall — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:51:50 GMT

Its new years, but if you have done Burningman or Landmark, well, you pretty much are declaring possibility all year long.

The rest of society waits for this one day to create new possibility, then becomes confounded by the "it" which stops them later in the year from being that possibility.

But not the people of LandMark or Burningman, they work all year to create some new possibility to let loose on the playa.

If you have done LandMark, well, then your not just the type who's life is falling apart. You probably are the type that can do Burningman or your job and have an amazing life to live into all year long.

Still, understanding is the boobie prize Werner Erhards said, and often, because we know what we know that we dont know, we are still subject to being human.

So the task is what can you do outside of the box to create something for New Years because its new years and you will live into this possible future?

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The Power of Nothingness Tribe

thomasgall — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:24:54 GMT

Please Join this Funny Tribe:

http://tribes.tribe.net/wherethehellami?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5Be83da611-23ac-41b7-8514-a004c2c5d805%5D

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LandMark Education News

thomasgall — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:19:40 GMT

Landmark Education News

The Creation of YMAD: Youth Making a Difference

This is the story of the creation of YMAD: Youth Making a Difference a project created in the Landmark Self Expression and Leadership Program.

Youth Making a Difference

Youth Making A Difference gives young adults from Utah a chance to contribute to the lives of children and battered women in northern India

http://landmarkeducationnews.blogspot.com/

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Does anyone know...

Weirdo — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 04:17:35 GMT

...if the originators of Burning Man are Landamarkians? I haven't attended but the language of the event and attendees seems to be very Landmarkish. I wonder if BM was created from the originators involvement with Landmark?

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Anyone in Montreal????

Tex — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:05:54 GMT

I got this email update below.
If anyone is in the Montreal area and goes to see the movie, write is a review.
I must go see it now, after revisiting my est experience over the last couple of years.
Perhaps it will answer some of those nagging unanswered questions about Werner.

sneak preview of “Transformation” will be shown at the National Cinema Board of Canada in Montreal on January 17th 2007 at 7:00 p.m. For tickets and information visit: http://www.mpaevum.com/transformation

The official theatrical release will begin with a premiere in New York in April followed by screenings in select major cities. A television broadcast and DVD sales will follow.

Visit http://transformationfilm.com/scheduled_screenings.htm for updates!

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The Secret

joefunva — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:39:56 GMT

I saw the movie "The Secret". I really liked it. It's an entertaining and compelling idea that we create our future by what we think. (Kind of Landmarky) I don't know if I believe the quantum theory stuff, but I've played around with this and it works to some extent (probably to the extent that I have faith that it will work). So God created us in Gods' image and I believe this could include the ability to create by speaking a word. I believe there is power in what we say. Hence the Integrity/"Honor your Word" stuff? (With great power comes great responsibility: Uncle Ben Parker - deceased - Spiderman).

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Pigs Fly Event.

Tex — Sun, 29 Oct 2006 03:44:00 GMT

Has anyone attended the Graduate Event this year?
I went this past week.
Any comments?

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Introduction Leaders Program and Passing the Baton

joefunva — Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:53:27 GMT

Hi Folks,

I just did my first Introduction Leaders Program weekend and it was extraordinary.

I'd like to get complete on the "ILP" thread that's been something of a saga about my journey to this day. I want you all to know that I REALLY appreciate all of the sharing that you posted and I value every word. It's clear you put in a lot of time and thought on your postings. I considered all of that knowledge and decided that I've gotten great things from every Landmark program I've completed and from this weekend I'm clear that I will have some huge breakthroughs in this program by playing a bigger game.

One specific thing I want to get complete on are the issues of "pressure" and "numbers". We spent a lot of time on these during the weekend and there's no doubt in my mind that the leaders of my program are most focused on creating enrollment and complete customer satisfaction and that there be no pressure in Landmark programs. That's where I'm going to stand during the program.

One of the agreements of my program is that I not support/endorse any non-Landmark venues like courses, businesses and WEBSITES. So, to be in integrity with that agreement, I'm passing the baton to Tex. He has agreed to take over being the moderator of this tribe. I'll still check in from time to time to see what you guys are up to, but I won't be posting.

Thanks.
Joe

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A little stroll down memory lane.

Tex — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:08:13 GMT

Someone posed this question to me in another newsgroup.

I'm just curious, but if my problem was world hunger would that be something I created too?

Sorry I don't take responsibility for everyone else's problems.

Tex responded
If world hunger bothers you, yes, because you can take some actions
to do something about it if you choose to.

I think that too many people equate responsibility with blame.
Werner Erhard wrote a very good article about this distinction years
ago. I'll try to find it and post it.<end snip>

Here is the definition and an essay about jargon and responsibility.

For my next act, I'll play some Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young anti-
war songs on my guitar. {:-D

enjoy,

Retro-Tex

Definition of Responsibility

Responsibility starts with the willingness to experience your Self as
cause in the matter.

It starts with the willingness to deal with a situation from and with
the point of view, whether at the moment realized or not, that you
are the source of what you are, what you do and what you have. This
point of view extends to include even what is done to you and
ultimately what another does to another.

Responsibility is not burden, fault, praise, blame, credit, shame or
guilt. All these include judgements and evaluations of good and bad,
right and wrong, or better and worse. They are not responsibility.
They are derived from a ground of being in which Self is considered
to be a thing or an object rather than context.

Ultimately, responsibility is a context--a context of Self as
source -- for the content, i.e., for what is.

Copyright Werner Erhard

JARGON: WHO'S RESPONSIBLE?
(copyright 1983, The Network Review/A publication of Werner Erhard &
Associates/All Rights Reserved)

One of the ways you'll know that you are excluding people is that
what you discovered in the training will begin to be jargon for you.
You'll use terms used in the training and they won't create anything
for anybody; in fact, they'll be a kind of battering ram. One of the
worst words in this respect is "responsibility".

Almost any use of the word responsibility is jargon, and is a use of
the word as a battering ram.

If I say to you, "You are responsible" that statement is false. I'm
literally lying to you when I say you are responsible for the quality
of your own life, for the things that happen in your life. What
makes it a lie is the context in which I express it.

Responsibility is true only when you are the cause. Yet the only way
anyone can hear the statement, "You are the cause," is as the effect
of it.mIf in any way I talk about responsibility and it makes you
wrong or me right, you can be sure that it has become pure jargon.

The only place that responsibility really lives is in the domain of
declaration -- in the domain of bringing forth. It is not a prior
fact, it is created.

One brings forth responsibility, thus making a statement of
empowerment, not a statement of blame or burden or guilt, not a
statement of liability, not a statement with which you manipulate
anyone. If you feel bad bout something you did because you
are "responsible" for what you do, then you're lying to yourself.
You aren't responsible for it.
You can only feel bad when you are an effect, not a cause. You don't
feel bad in a domain of bringing forth, of creation.

Don't get caught in jargon. It doesn't work. It doesn't
communicate.
It belittles you, it belittles the beauty of the training, and it
belittles the person with whom you use it. Jargon just plain doesn't
work.

When you can use words you heard in the training to create new
possibilities for people, to bring forth new distinctions for
someone, that is wonderful. But remember, you did not "get" the
training.
There's nothing to get in the training. The training -- and that
includes the language of the training -- only lives in the moment
that you bring it forth.

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ILP in the fall

joefunva — Mon, 10 Apr 2006 04:37:24 GMT

Hi Guys,
I'm considering taking the Introduction Leaders Program (ILP) in the fall in DC. To me, it looks like about the same amount of work/time as coaching SELP (which I'm doing now). So if you've done ILP, how would you describe it and what did you get out of it?
Joe

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Wisdom Course - LA Center

Rico — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 05:48:48 GMT

For those that have heard about it, are thinking about it, or are interested in taking it, 2006 Wisdom Course begins THIS FRIDAY!

If you have any questions about the course, you may contact me directly or I can put you in contact with any of the course leaders from around the world.

Also, you all are invited to our first community and social event this Saturday at 6 p.m. This event is for grads and non-grads alike!

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Share from Lauie Olson; Unseen Value of Transformation

thomasgall — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:17:11 GMT

Dear All,

I had the opportunity a week ago to participate in a special event...the morning Bill Turner mocked a classroom to qualify to lead Seminars in SLC.

It was powerful on a couple of levels. First, the honor to listen Bill as Seminar Leader...he's been that for me from the beginning. Second, to be re-accquainted with the distinction Enchantment/ Disenchantment.

I had heard several people make the comment: "Landmark seems to work for some people, but it just doesn't seem to work for me." I have to admit, that I bought into that...it matched up with my nasty little business that I NEED to be special. That would mean that since it worked for me, I WAS special. What a load that is!!

Once, I got past that, I was able to explore what might be going on with those who made that comment. I wanted to be able to get into their world and relate to how frustrating it must be to see something so amazing working for others and feel like it was "out there" and somehow not available to me. I remember feeling that way when people would talk about miracles and gifts of the spirit and I just KNEW I would never, ever be able to experience what that was like. My participation in Landmark Education, kept reitterating that "anything I want for myself or my life" is available to me out of my participation in the Landmark Education curicullum.

So, I looked at what it might mean to have Landmark "work" and "not work" or not work as well as you'd like it to.

I have some conversations to enjoy with others about this, but this is what I saw for myself.
I was watching a tape with Harry Rosenberg, CEO of Landmark Education, and he addressed this concept by using the analogy of a truck backing up to me and dumping transformation on me. He expressed the desire to be able to do that if it would make a difference...he wants transformation for all of us that much. It's just that transformation doesn't work that way. Drat!! It isn't even something that we do...just tell me what to do and I'll reproduce it. I get it that this is the reason so many of us, with such diversity, can claim our own incredible individual results from our participation in the Landmark Forum.
Jenn Kuhlmann shaved 71/2 hours off her personal best running 100 mile marathons...I doubled my income; Jake A. spent Christmas in a designed environment of love that made room for his ex-wife, her boyfriend, Jake's girlfriend, and most of all daughter, Shalom;Jaime S. got the relationship of her dreams...what about you?

So, I came out of the Landmark Forum on the "pink cloud" of enchantment. I was lit up and where enchantment is present, there is also disenchantment. It's the front and back of the hand. People like me, want only the enchantment. When the disenchantment shows up, I shrink, drop out, disown and kill off anything that resembles that state or who and what brought it to me. It is my story that I am especially nasty about disenchantment because I can live with those rose colored glasses endlessly swirling in the illusion that there's nothing wrong...different from living from there's nothing wrong here...and staying detached from "living life on life's terms" like bills and work and reality. YUK. Reality, what's that? It's the balance of enchantment and disenchantment. That's what I say. And for me to be able to live in BOTH is an awsome opportunity. To remain in action when the enchantment has faded, and the disenchantment has me by the tail, is a brand new invitation to me. It was my pattern to drop out, give up, blame others and make the situation wrong, bad and sick so I had to get out of it. Now, I see what's available if I stick it out to the other side where the magic awaits and enchantment occurs once again.

I was given a CD from the Hospice convention that introduced a concept called Liminal Space. It intrigued me and I googled the phrase and the article that popped up is attached to this e-mail. I think you'll find it fascinating that there is now a word to describe what "free fall" is.
You are invited to join me again in "Liminal Space" on Wed. at Susan Saalsaa's seminar--The Landmark Forum In Action, classroom 9. It will be a special guest event. It starts at the workspace at 7pm. Come, even if you don't bring a guest. It is an opportunity to re-engage in the magic you took away from your Landmark Forum no matter when it was...The conversation will be spectacular.

best,
Laurie Olson

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My life of nothing meaning

thomasgall — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:19:37 GMT

The power of nothing

I love this tribe, mostly I love the concept.

Thats all it is, it doesnt really exist, nothing that is.

Its about a conversation, getting to nothing in my thinking of whats so.

Its an endless process, the moment I touch nothing, my life fills up with even more of something, the good part is its a new something, and my vast experience with change and new is that new is often a lot better.

I am a bit addicted to change, I spent my childhood trying to fix the world with every bit of information I could find, but I discovered this was me trying to fix my childhood. I got complete with that, and now I realize there is nothing to fix.

I learned this concept of getting to nothing in my conversation, in my belief and thinking of the past, my hopes for the future. I learned it so many times, but I didn't get it, even know that I think I get the nothing concept, I still have situations in life that test my belief in it and of course the more I am achieving nothing, the more life doesnt allow me to stay there for long.

You can't teach nothing to people, it counter intuitive, it doesnt make sense, since cave times mankind needed to have something, since we lived in scarcity, we need to hoard our resources, but even at this time, nothing was the secret to life, but then survival didnt need us to have any secrets, lizards have survived for a long time without this secret.

We need the secret of nothing - (no past, no future, no spoon) because we have words which allow us to choose how we are being in any given moment. This was a gift of evolution and a curse. It allows us to powerfully choose something new, and with a simple thought change how we are being in a given moment, at the same time, the pattern survival brain fights us to keep things safe and the same.

I will never arrive, I will never end this path.

But my life is so powerful now!
I quit my job, and get 10 offers making a lot more money!
I sell my car, and get a better car for a lot less money!
I give up my past beliefs about family and friends, and now they love me and all my relationship rock!
I stop having fears about retirement, and my retirement starts to grow expotentionally!
I could keep going on....but I think you get the idea.

Its not nothing, its no thing, or its no thought, or its no past beliefs, maybe its that there is no spoon, but that doesnt describe it.

What I learned is that we put our past into our future, this puts our past into our future in our present possible moment, so we are living our past in our future right now, and that doesnt work. The past has very little to do with now, our consideration about life right now have little to do with what is, and our future isnt here till we BE_Do it right now anyways.

But maybe you enlighten folks can tell me how lost I really am in this nothing...

I didnt have anthing to say either so I wrote this nothing, I wasnt even sure how to say nothing, and given what I said, its nothing really.

But I hope you liked my nothing, I really need to say nothing, to fully keep my brain from creating something out of this nothing.

I appreciate a space of nothing to put together this nothing concept and mostly the sharing is so very powerful, I can't have the power of nothing unless you all hear my nothing rant and keep me in the space of being nothing.

I thank you for nothing, I love you for nothing everything, I hope nothing touches your life and gives you everything and anything from this clearing in the realm of infinite possiblitiy broght about from nothing.

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Question...

weeezl — Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:36:01 GMT

Was the Landmark Advanced course you took all about createing a 'game' where to win you had to get everyone to register for the next course?

I'm taking an advanced course that's been 'redesigned' and I'm trying to see if this was a part of the previous curriculum.

-A

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The Fourth Christ

Dan — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 06:33:59 GMT

I have a story relating to ACIM at christ4.home.mchsi.com. Please read it if you have time and comment. Remember though it is fiction. Also it has not been edited yet.

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nothing

thomasgall — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:15:03 GMT

no thing conversation

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Sharing a breakthrough

Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:43:09 GMT

Loving community,
>
> I have just become more present than ever before
> of how a piece of my past has just continued to
> grab me by my core. I first want to apologize
> for my english that really sucks this morning.
> Maybe it is a result of getting in touch with
> early childhood moments in the french mountains
> where i grew up, memories that are setting me
> free right here right NOW
>
> The story goes as such, my father left my mother
> when I was about 9 years old. He took off with
> another woman. I spent 20 years of my life
> judging his actions (until the advanced course),
> I spent countless energy subconsciously fighting
> the meaning that I created and glued to his
> actions. I was 9 years old you see, and I was
> all of a sudden left with a mother a sister but
> no father. My father, my ally in the family
> disappeared out of my life one day. He was never
> around much before i think, but then eventually
> it happened, he vanished out of daily life, of
> family life. I do not remember much, but I
> hardened the day my mother took me upstairs in
> one of the bedrooms, me alone, not with my
> younger sister, just me, to inform me that they
> were separating, or that he was leaving. I don’t
> remember exactly what she said but I think I
> hardened right then, I took on the role that I
> had to make everything fine for others, that i
> should not matter because i had to make sure my
> mother and sister would be ok, that we will make
> it, that I would be tough and strong and a
> pillar…. a 9 year-old pillar with freckles and
> messy hair… I think I interpreted my mother
> taking me apart as an early invitation into the
> adult world, as a signal that I had to be
> serious from then on, that because of who I was,
> the older sister, I was invited to grow up right
> then, to take responsibility, take charge and
> not rely on others because back then it was my
> mother, myself and my sister against the whole
> world, surviving disappearance and loss.
>
> My life has felt like a roller coaster (without
> an ILP community...), i always felt that i was
> not proactively creating my life but that i was
> living in reaction, with seldom moments of
> freedom. And my energy would fluctuate so much
> and so many things felt like burdens... but i
> rarelly cried about anything, unless it had to
> do with disappearance and loss, feeling numb as
> often as possible to the core. and i never quit
> anything or anyone, other than myself... ouch,
> wow that's painful to see,
>
> Results, i have many degrees from prestigious
> universities, but no job (my act is "i'm
> not good enough" and so i can't do it and
> you will soon discover i am fake unworthy human
> being so why would i even humiliate myself and
> trust that i am worth something!?), i have felt
> alone, i have withdrawn (anyone noticed??? if
> you have not, don't worry i created being
> transparent decades ago!), i made men rule my
> life by handing my power over and created them
> as threatening creatures, potential destroyers
> of my life..., i have ripped other people from
> the opportunity of being contribution to me, i
> have wanted to die at times whenever someone i
> loved disappeared or even felt my life
> threatened when a guy would say he could not see
> me that day or whatever... basically walking
> through life with a subconscious radar finding
> who is going to leave me so that i can run
> towards them, try to fix my past and end up
> confirm my act! so past relationships were not
> that pretty and intimate.... and loving....
> forget about loving.... it was all the pretense
> of loving out of fear and anxiety...
>
> So last night and this morning circumstances
> triggered something in me, this realization in
> my whole being of what it was like when my
> father left. You see i can't remember much of my
> past, so i have regularly had a really hard time
> with landmark technology whenever we were asked
> to remember the past... i tried to remember,
> imagining things but not trusting myself... and
> today, i have finally gotten to an even deeper
> layer of it all.
>
> I realize that i love families, i love
> communities, i love sharing and intimacy (don't
> we all?), it gives me my life, and i am the
> possibilities of LOVE AND POWER.
>
> Today though, i am inventing a new possibility
> for myself and my life. I am the possibility of
> being community, being a free and confident
> woman, and being trusting that life is totally
> amazing and a teacher at every moment of the day
> or night and so worth lo/iving!
>
> This is a victory over my past because i don't
> have to make it mean anything when someone does
> not want to see me, it does not have to make me
> feel like i am unworthy of being alive, that i
> am unlovable. It means nothing about me! I am
> now free to trust that i am a great, loving,
> beautiful and generous human being who is
> surrounded by people who do love me and have
> shared that with me and now i am free to see it
> and take their love in without depending on it
> to feel alive! I AM ALIVE and CHOOSING TO TAKE
> RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT I DO WITH MY LIFE FROM
> NOW ON, NO MORE MARTYRDOM!!!!! and i can be of
> true generosity and contributions to others, by
> being loving to myself first! Today, I really
> get more than ever before the whole idea of
> "loving oneself first before being able to
> love others" principle in my core being so
> much, it goes way beyond any word i have ever
> used to try and explain this truth that i
> basically knew either intellectually or too
> sporadicaly. I am alive and loving, i then
> become a clearing for you to be the same for
> yourself and your life
>
> Wow that was a long share, thank you for your
> presence and your listening
>
> Loving Life Loving You

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DO - HAVE - BE vs BE - DO - HAVE

joefunva — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:18:26 GMT

Human nature: DO things so I can HAVE something so I can BE something.

Example: I want to be a homeowner. I try to save enough money, so I can have the home, so I can be a homeowner.

If I create the possibility of being a homeowner first, new possibilities for being call me powerfully into being (BE), new possibilities for action call me powerfully into action (DO). I HAVE the result mainly by sharing the possibility and being open to it showing up.

I'm bringing this up because two things occurred to me recently:

1. I saw the PBS special by Dr. Wayne Dyer about his book "The Power of Intention". His "thing" is being "connected" to this all-creating, all-loving force of intention (God) and allowing it to abundantly create through me. Part of a possibility might be to see myself as abundantly having the result I want and allowing it to be created show up.

2. In my SELP course I realized that my Act makes me keep my head down, trying too hard (doing) and sometimes (always) the result I want shows up and I don't see it. I've experienced that by sharing myself and my possiblity (a lot) with others, I touch, move and inspire myself and them and the result just shows up.

I'm thinking this might Landmark blasphemy, but I think I can have any result I want for myself and my life not by participation in the Landmark Forum, but by being in this mode of operation...

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Bridge Conversations - no pressure or akwardness

joefunva — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:04:48 GMT

Hi Folks,
Call me dense, but I've completed the Landmark Curriculum for Living and I never heard about a bridge conversation until this week (I'm taking the commitment seminar). I'm very impressed. I've always felt pressure listening to someone trying to do a registration conversation after an enrollment conversation and I've had trouble with the transition myself. I've always heard you can't do an enrollment conversation "In order to...". The bridge conversation really handles the transition very smoothly with no pressure or akwardness.

Is this something that's been around very long? I can tell you I haven't seen it used much, but it's awesome. My commitment seminar leader gave it to us by using the "big juicy mango store" example...

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Performing miracles

joefunva — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:42:03 GMT

The thread on headaches reminds me of a thread in another tribe on "intention". It was a discussion about miracles.

Does anybody think that real, physical miracles can be created by practicing in some way? It think it would be cool to cure a sick person, walk on water or turn water into wine. It seems to me that moving a mountain shouldn't be any "harder" than changing water into wine once I "know how".

Of course, if I knew how to do this, I'd wonder if it would be responsible to tell others how...

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Who Did EST?

thomasgall — Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:14:58 GMT

Back in the 80's they called us ESTholes cause we gave up our ego and did not take no for an answer.

No bathroom breaks, and a lot like the Military boot camp I went through with a drill sargent getting in your ego's face to break it down.

Now the technology has evolved, they know they dont have to break it down, it will break down by pushing your self to the space of being unreasonable and extraordinary.

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Disappearing a headache

joefunva — Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:16:08 GMT

Hi Folks,
In the advanced course, there was an exercise to disappear a headache. Last night I got a bad one and couldn't disappear it. Does anybody remember how it goes? In general, I've had some success disappearing neck pain and "suffering", but it didn't work last night.
Joe

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When did Landmark "take" for you?

joefunva — Sun, 05 Jun 2005 04:04:45 GMT

Hi Folks,

I was just wondering where you guys got big things. During the Landmark Forum I got a few rackets and stories and it was good. At the end, I thought I had "it". But a few weeks later, I was back to my old self. I started my seminar about that time, but couldn't finish it because I started travelling for work (they are going to let me do it over after the SELP).

The Advanced Course was much more powerful for me (and a lot more work). I found that my Act is "I don't need you (you're worthless)". I've aggressively shared my Act and possibility with my communities and it's helping me to not slip back. My life is better since I became the possibility of Fun.

Now I'm taking the Self Expression and Leadership Program (SELP). I remember thinking at the beginning the first two courses were interesting, but then some significant things started popping out later in the course. I'm feeling the same way about the SELP (one third of the way through). I sort of get the feeling now that it's just an opportunity to practice enrollment and registration conversations and learn how to plan a project (which I already know how to do). My group isn't really being a group. We are only a group because we all have the the same coach. We really don't do anything as a group. So last Thursday, I brought it up and we agreed to meet for dinner before the next classroom.

Which course was "the big one" for you?

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Love

joefunva — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:38:54 GMT

Part of a message I sent to Shamanatrix:

I acknowledge and appreciate your closing of "Love". I would sign "Love", but I'm not up to that yet. After all, who I am is the possibility of fun, and the Act I'm giving up is "I don't need you" and that is who I am. I can handle "fun", but I haven't yet learned what it means to generate being the possibility of love. I'm trying to get how to need without being needy. It's an ongoing project and frankly, it's more fun being fun. It might be a good possibility to be when it's time to look for something bigger than fun.

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Learning, Living and Loving.

guillaume — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 05:33:57 GMT

Do you remember the movie the fugitive, ? with
Harrison Ford
Check out this excellent recent video on the FDA &
CODEX.
http://www.welltv.com

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They say everybody is different and I agree, but who
doesn't like to go sleep at night feeling peaceful and
truely good thru and thru, who?
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Learning, Living and Loving.

I'm just trying to experience, this gift that was
given to me,. . .please, give me the time and space to
explore this life that is not a race, nor need it be a
struggle, it is more like a dance,. . .

Open to the dance, . .

listen for the soundz,

hear the music, happy new EARS!!!

Yay, the time is now,. .
the day is today.!!!

For What?

to Live your Love
to remember your hopes and dreams
to love your life.

Where?

Here , . . . . . . . . ..

again when?
from this moment in the eternal now thru your bodies
last breath, live yOUR love. and Love your Life.

HOW?,
POW!! just do it, WOW spelled backwards still is WOW
and keeping doing it the how will always change, but
remember to it out of love.

What is love?,

Love is. . . . .the deepest part of the paradoxical
mystery we call life, so keep asking to go deeper, and
you will experience what love is. and you will be glad
you did.

how do you go deep into love?

Com mitt to being Open and honest with your thoughts
and feelings, Sat Nam don't try to protect your self
with defensiveness, climb over!!! Swim ac cross
Denial, and dance on de feet. . . .
So hum and in the most honest of ways free yourself
from fear.

Who, is you,
who knows what, why, when, and how,
know yourself.

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A really big possibility

joefunva — Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:20:07 GMT

I'm taking the SELP and my project is almost done. I have three weeks left, but I actually still have 100% of my SELP course left...

I was thinking of the possibility of "The United States of North America". It's pretty big. I think it would solve more problems than it creates. What do you think?

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Saving the dolphins

thomasgall — Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:01:43 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/dolphinprotection?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B823a02e5-6627-4df6-a135-9443e0674904%5D&r=10535

I am the possibility of communication and love, the act that I giving up is that I need to fix the world.

I am a stand for the transformation of fishing to protect the dolphins and turtles. To educate the Asians to not use these creatures to eat.

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Politics

joefunva — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:36:04 GMT

I've been having an interesting political discussion with Lynne and Leslie. We've agreed to disagree on many of the issues like liberals vs conservatives and war vs peace. I think it would be cool if we could find some common ground here with all the enlightened folks who participate in this tribe and find new ways to transform the planet...

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Who are you as a possibility?...

DJDano — Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:42:42 GMT

And what's the act you're ongoingly giving up?

Who I am is the possibility of Dedication, Commitment and Leadership!
And the ACT I am ongoingly giving up is: I don't wanna and you can't make me!

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Attachment

joefunva — Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:04:54 GMT

I had a pretty big breakthrough in attachments by doing my SELP homework last week. The homework was to make 4 requests per day and make two of them unreasonable. I found that I have been attached to having the outcomes I want from conversations, relationships, projects, ..., EVERYTHING!

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Myers-Briggs

joefunva — Mon, 16 May 2005 11:21:01 GMT

Hi Guys (Pittsburgh gender-neutral term),

I was just looking into some of the Myers-Briggs tribes and it occurred to me that the MB assessment might be useful for helping people to determine their act (in the Landmark Advanced Course). Have any of you considered or heard of this?

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Social Software product

joefunva — Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:26:08 GMT

Hi Folks,
I've been hanging out in the Social Software Intellectuals tribe lately and it seems there are lots of social software products out there, but no good ones. I just posted a message there asking if any software folks wanted to get together and build a really good product. I actually started thinking about this a few months ago because although tribe is good, it could be a lot better for sharing. Then I started thinking bigger.

How does this occur to you guys? Do you want to participate? Do you know any sharp software folks (or product managers, or hardware folks, or DBAs, or technical writers) who might want to participate?

Joe

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SELP project - vibrant communities

joefunva — Sat, 14 May 2005 04:21:23 GMT

Hi Guys,

I just want to share with you my idea for my SELP project. I sent this email to my coach and posted a listing that shows up in this tribe (and a bunch of tribes around Northern VA)...

Hi Jeff,

I've spent some time getting present to this possibility and it's actually this:

"The possibility I'm creating for myself and my life is being the possibility of vibrant communities". I like this because it is much bigger and not constrained by "tribe.net". I also find this possibility more appealing/exciting. (My original possibility was to create tribe.net tribes to "make better communities. This possibility wasn't very exciting, even to me...) tribe.net is just one possible vehicle for making this possibility show up. This will involve enrolling 15 groups in my church (one tribe for each church group) and registering a moderator for each tribe that gets created. I'm planning to get someone from each of these communities to be a moderator/advocate/cheerleader. I'm also making it bigger by taking on my zip code in addition to my church. There are two communities (Countryside and Cascades) to bring on board. I'm not going to limit the size of this "movement", so it's possible this could grow to be all of Northern VA; or maybe just Reston ... :) ... :) I'm going to focus on the church first and then move into the zip code. Does this seem more in the right ballpark for size and substance?

What do you think?

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Prayer

joefunva — Sun, 08 May 2005 23:56:13 GMT

Hi Guys,
I posted this in the "What the bleep" tribe under "Intention Circle Experience" and I though it would generate some interesting discussion:

May 08, 2005 - 04:51 PM new
Re: Powerful prayer

in response to: Re: Powerful prayer

Hi Marcey,

I'd like to move the conversation on prayer forward. I did some thinking about it this week and I'd like to make a distinction between two kinds of prayer. I'll call them powerless prayer and powerful prayer. I've done a lot of powerless prayer. It goes like this "Please God, give me such and so...". I'm trying to get powerful prayer like Jesus displayed. Curing the blind and the lame, raising dead people, etc. He said we could all do these things and greater things we have faith the size of a mustard seed. He said we could command a mountain to jump into the sea and it would...

I don't know how to have "more" faith. I'm starting to get the power in my words and in relationships (there was a time when Jesus said he "couldn't" perform many miracles because those in that town didn't have any faith). I think I have about a molecule's worth of faith right now. Does anybody know how to do this?

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Registration Conversation vs Sales Pitch

joefunva — Thu, 05 May 2005 16:00:38 GMT

I have a problem with registration conversations. I'm trying to get the difference between a registration conversation and a sales pitch. Almost every registration conversation I've heard at Landmark Education occurs to me like a sales pitch where the other person is being pressured to say "yes". I'm thinking the "other person" should first be enrolled in a possibility that is so touching, moving and inspiring that no pressure is needed in the registration. I've read books on sales ("The One Minute Salesperson" is a good one). I've also had the privilege of taking some sales training classes and working with some world-class sales people. When a really good salesperson has a registration conversation, they've always already done a great enrollment so, the other person is just fine with saying "yes" and never feels pressured. I agree that sometimes the other person needs to be "nudged" outside their comfort zone, but I'm seeing more than nudges.

I think Landmark is hurting itself by letting people who don't get this talk to prospective students.

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Introduction for this tribe

joefunva — Mon, 02 May 2005 22:19:06 GMT

I took a whack at generating a description for this tribe. I think it's too (something). My act is "I don't need you", so I'm asking for ideas to describe the tribe. I know we as a community can come up with a description that is neither good nor bad ;)

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Who I am

joefunva — Mon, 02 May 2005 14:31:50 GMT

I just created this clearing (tribe) last night. I hope it becomes a place where Landmark graduates can share at a more intimate level. Who I am is the possibility of fun. The act I'm giving up is "I don't need you"; and that is who I am. I do need you and I hope this is a fun place.

I just started the Landmark Self Expression and Leadership Program this past Saturday.

My probable, almost certain future is when the course gets challenging, I will try harder, work longer hours and focus tighter on the task.

The impact of doing this on my is I will not need anybody and will not have deep relationships with my co-workers. More importantly, the impact on the community is that others will not need me and I will disempower them by not including them.

The possibility I am creating for myself and my life is the possibility of being fun and engaging.

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